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Q1: Why is Mohammed Deif shown as alive?

A1: per WP:BDP, "anyone born within the past 115 years is [considered alive] unless a reliable source has confirmed their death". Although the Israeli military stated on August 1, 2024 that it has evidence that Deif was successfully assassinated, and on November 2, 2024 a London-based Saudi aligned newspaper reported that his remains have been confirmed, Hamas has denied Deif's death. On November 21, 2024 the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for him with the comment that the warrant would be withdrawn upon the confirmation of Deif's death.
To comply with Wikipedia's neutrality policy, the consensus is to follow the actions of the International Criminal Court which purports to be neutral (having issued arrest warrants to leaders on both sides of the Israel-Hamas War).

Q2: Does this mean that Hamas's version is given more weight?

A2: It means that preference is given to the version of the person being alive. Given that a reputable international organization claims that it cannot verify Deif's death, WP:BDP requires the assumption that he's still alive.

Q3: What would happen if Hamas were to announce his death but were to provide a different date, location, and cause for his death?

A3: Unless one side provides stronger evidence than the other side, under such a scenario it would be proper to list both dates, locations, and causes with parenthesis indicating whose date, location, and cause is associated with which version

Q4: What could happen in 2080 (115 years after Deif's birth) under the scenario of no new information is made available (i.e. Deif's death is still denied from the Palestinian side, and no new evidence is provided about his death)?

A4: At that point, it would be permissible to enter the Israeli version of the time, place, and cause of his death with the parenthetical statement that the information is disputed.

Q5: How do Wikipedias in other languages handle this issue?

A5: Each Wikipedia is run differently with different rules, meaning that the consensus reached in other Wikipedias could be different. Not all Wikipedias have policies regarding biographies of living people, and even those who have such a policy, few have a clause within their policy page on how to handle death announcements.
Since the English Wikipedia has been hit with an unfortunate incident regarding the biography of a living person as far back as 2005, it has developed the most stringent policies regarding biographies of living people.

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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

"Situation in the State of Palestine: ICC Pre-Trial Chamber I rejects the State of Israel's challenges to jurisdiction and issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant Image". www.icc-cpi.int. 21 November 2024. Retrieved 21 November 2024.
Arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas commander over alleged war crimes | BBC News. 21 November 2024. Retrieved 21 November 2024.
"What the ICC said on the arrest warrants against Gallant, Netanyahu and Hamas leader Deif". Reuters. 22 November 2024. Retrieved 21 November 2024. The Chamber found that the alleged conduct of Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant concerned the activities of Israeli government bodies and the armed forces against the civilian population in Palestine, more specifically civilians in Gaza.
"ICC issues arrest warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, Deif". www.france24.com France 24. 21 November 2024. Retrieved 21 November 2024.
Nick Spicer (21 November 2024). "The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant". www.npr.org NPR. Retrieved 21 November 2024. Israel rejects the court's allegations, which include the use of starvation as a weapon of war and "intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population." The ICC also issued a warrant Thursday for the arrest of Muhammad Deif, Hamas' military chief.

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There is nothing alleged about the attempted assassination of July 13, 2024. Hence, the word "alleged" is inappropriate for the section heading. Since Israel claims that the attempted assassination was successful, they are not going to attempt to assassinate him again. Hence, the most accurate way to characterize the attempted assassination of July 13, and distinguish it from all the other attempted assassinations, is "the last attempted assassination". The Mountain of Eden (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]